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GRAPES & POISON CONTROL
by
Barbara J. Andrews
and
Nel Liquorman /Part Two /June 2009
TheDogPlace.org
Most raisin and grape toxicity reports refer to the National Animal Poison
Control Center,
(ref
#1 direct link)
a $60 per call service of the ASPCA.
Be sure to read Part 1:
Dogs Poisoned By Grapes & Raisins?
Rationalizing irrationality, the first analysis...
The Animal Poison Control Center
was a free service
started by a veterinarian and his students at the University of Illinois
– Urbana.
In
1984 the name was formally changed. In 1990 Paul Harvey gave out the phone
number on his radio show and for the first time, a small per-call fee was
instituted.
In 1996 the
ASPCA
acquired the
Animal Poison Control Center
(APCC) call center and instituted a $60 per call charge, payable by credit
card. ASPCA is a New York City charitable organization, not connected with your
local “SPCA”. It relies on donations but unlike HSUS which does not have
or support a single shelter, the ASPCA maintains a highly rated shelter facility
in New York City.
The Potential For Grape Poisoning Misdiagnosis
The ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center
has an aggressively marketed database. If a dog is presented with symptoms that
a vet recalls match those associated with
“killer grapes”
(a term used by APCC), the vet will ask if the dog could have eaten grapes. A
distraught, confused owner may well answer “yes, he could have” and thus,
it is dutifully recorded as another grape-raisin poisoning. If it fact is
was an adverse reaction to medication or a vaccine, your dog can die if
treatment is not appropriate. Beloved pets have died because good vets
were misled.
If time allows, conscientious vets will pursue
diagnostic testing but far too often, dogs will be hospitalized and treated for “grape and
raisin poisoning.” Whether the dog survives or not, it becomes another incorrect
statistic with which other vets and dog owners may be misled.
While
our researchers found numerous reports of renal failure in dogs thought to have
eaten raisins or grapes,
not one single report confirmed that grapes caused the toxic reaction.
(ref #2)
All either cited the APCC database as the basis for
diagnosis or as in this report from the CABI Abstract, reports stated that the
pathogenesis (origin) and nephrotoxicity (poisonous effect) was
unknown, i.e. “This is the first report of
clinical signs, treatment, and clinical outcome in dogs that developed renal
failure after ingestion of raisins or grapes. The pathogenesis of nephrotoxicity
associated with raisins and grapes remains unknown. Outcome was favorable in 2
out of the 4 cases of acute renal failure associated with raisin or grape
ingestion in these dogs.”
Pounding The Poisonous Grape
Some reports from otherwise credible sources were downright silly in citing the
APCC information, to wit, this from the Companion Animal Newsletter and OK State
veterinary newsletter, “According to the ASPCA’s Animal Poison Control Center,
the amount of grapes or raisins consumed that can cause toxicity varies from a
pound of grapes to just a single serving of raisins and canine cases of
grape/raisin toxicity have been reported all over the United States.”
A
pound of grapes would give a 200 pound human diarrhea for a week! On the
other hand, APCC says a
single grape can cause renal failure. Equally ridiculous. The statement
implies widespread raisin/grape toxicity but that is patently untrue. How many
cases have actually been attributed to dogs known to have ingested
grapes? APCC has no answer! Have other species been poisoned as is implied by “canine
cases”? No answers.
“Killer
grapes”
is a classic example of “give
a fool a fable and it becomes a fact”
by virtue
of
repetition. It might be funny were it not making fools of good vets and causing dog owners to withhold a natural treat loved
by most dogs.
Test your gullibility IQ with this quick example of Veterinary Overstatement
excerpted from the Vermont Veterinary Medical Association,
(ref #3)
editorial emphasis
added.
Q: I recently heard that I should not give my dog grapes or raisins, as this
could be fatal. Is this true?
A: Yes, it is. According to the National Animal Poison Control Center, pets may
be very sensitive to an
unknown
chemical in grapes, raisins, or juice/wine made
from grapes. The toxic dose of grape products can be as low as 0.1 mg/kg (or
0.046mg/lb), which means less than
one grape or raisin may be poisonous to a 10
pound dog. Older or sick animals are the most susceptible. Symptoms usually
start with vomiting, diarrhea and/or depression. In the animal hospital, several
blood tests values will be affected, especially kidney function tests. Without
intensive supportive therapy, death from kidney failure usually occurs within
one to four days.
Of course dogs in critical condition must have tests, regardless of expense.
Especially as, in our non-veterinarian opinion, panic-stricken owners may
mislead vets into verifying the following:
1.) The number and frequency of such reports and the basis for diagnosis of
grape poisoning as opposed to known chemical toxins used to treat the grapes or
Adverse
Drug Reactions which are a hundred thousand times as likely!
2.) APCC states “the minimum toxic dose of grapes in dogs is approximately 0.3
oz/kg body weight… 2 grapes/kg body weight.” which implies a Mastiff-size dog
could ingest more grapes (300) than a human of comparable size! Since my dogs
lose interest after 5 to 10 grapes, we challenge APCC’s assertion regarding
dosage as guesswork such as embarrassed John Stossel in this
(ii)
20/20 Report
3.) If the number and frequency of renal failures put forth by APCC is accurate,
why hasn’t a veterinary university done a study? Is it because there is no marketable vaccine, medication, or
antidote for “grape” poisoning or is it because there is simply no evidence with
which to indict the grape and thereby motivate a clinical trial? See
Adverse Reactions.
4.) And lastly, does this whole scenario set up a situation for intense
hospitalization, extensive testing, and expensive treatment based on a false diagnosis
which no grateful dog owner will question?
Grape Logic & Raisin
Reason
I am not a veterinarian but I have, for 51 years, unknowingly conducted a real-life clinical trial with
real dogs, none of which have ever suffered any adverse effects from eating
grapes. To be accurate, I must confess I’ve fed unwashed grapes to my dogs.
My dogs have varied
in size from 2 pound toy breed puppies to well over 100 pound adult Rottweilers
and Akitas. Depending on their size, my dogs lose interest after 3 to 7 grapes.
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This
leads me to the inescapable conclusion that the dogs taken to veterinary
clinics
were owned by heartless people who starved them so badly that the dogs
overdosed on grapes! |
Wild grapes are part of a natural diet for foxes, wolves, coyotes, and bears.
Sprayed, commercially raised grapes are stolen by various carnivores and birds.
I do not however confuse grapes with raisins which are preserved with sulphur
dioxide and other chemicals.
If grapes are found in a dog’s stomach that died from “poison” it is
statistically more likely that the dog was inadvertently poisoned by household
chemicals,
(ii)
Anti-freeze Poisoning (instant
info)
or suffered an Adverse
Drug Reaction (Ref #4) that is (inadvertently or deliberately) overlooked.
This is in no way meant to detract from conscientious, caring vets who accepted
what they assume is scientific evidence. It is not meant to demean the good work
done by the ASPCA. We just wonder if anyone at APCC has ever owned a dog much
less given it a grape!
This first report went out to over 19,000 subscribers and within 30 days was read
by more than 20,000 interested dog owners. As of this writing, we have received
one report of death by grapes, over two hundred emails of grapes routinely
given as treats, and nearly one hundred reports of veterinary negligence and/or
malpractice unrelated to grapes.
Please, if you have a confirmed report of grape toxicity or can ad to this
discussion,
email the editor.
http://www.thedogplace.org/Nutrition/Grapes-Raisins-ASPCA-09062_bj.asp#
09061012-1111
Reference:
#1
Animal Poison Control Center -
http://www.aspca.org
#2 Merck Veterinary Manual, the Vet’s “bible”
says this about renal failure thought to have been caused by grapes, “Diagnosis
is based on history of exposure, along with clinical signs. Other causes of
renal failure (eg, ethylene glycol, cholecalciferol) should be considered in the
differential diagnosis.”
#3 Vermont
Veterinary Medical Association
#4
Adverse
Drug & Vaccine Reactions, the 5th most common cause of death in HUMANS!
Get the facts.
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